JIMMY NAIL EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - PART THREE
JN - I’d like to begin by making clear that the following are my thoughts and recollections of events, some of which took place almost 40
years ago. Others will doubtless have their own recollections, their own versions. They may differ from mine. All are valid. Everyone has
their own truth. I’ve written at length about my AWP experiences in my 2004 memoir and for that reason my answers here will be
comparatively brief.
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Question 17: Such is the continued popularity of Auf Wiedersehen,
Pet, fans go to incredible lengths, regularly gathering at iconic filming
locations up and down the country and across the world to unite,
celebrate, photograph, video and exchange stories about their
favourite TV show. What was your favourite filming location and why?
JN - It amazes me how you guys find all
those locations! I will always have a soft spot for the hut as despite all
his moaning about the conditions, that was where Oz was happiest,
lying in his manky cot, pontificating while scratching his bollocks. I was
sad to see the place go up in flames.
Question 18: It is well documented you enjoyed your time working
with your Auf Wiedersehen, Pet ‘family’. During the 30th Anniversary
celebrations ‘Back with the Boys, Again’ filmed at
NewcastleGateshead Hilton Hotel in 2013, you were asked if you had
one favourite Auf Wiedersehen, Pet memory. You passionately
recalled having “so many great memories”.
Would you kindly share just one of your fondest memories either
on, or off- screen?
JN - The first read-through when I met the other leading actors
was quite a morning. As befits the new boy I’d arrived a half an hour early.
The 10 am start time came and went. Executives’ um’d and ah’d. Six actors
were sat in a seven-chair semi-circle awaiting the last of their number
who was running late. The chair to my left was empty. I wondered who
on earth would dare keep this lot waiting. Eventually, enter one very
flustered, out-of-breath young man who apologised, sat down next to
me, held out his hand and said in a south London accent, ‘Hello, mate.
I’m Tim’. We began reading and it took about two minutes for me to
realise the late-comer sat next to me was someone very special, even
by the standards of this company. His reading of Barry Taylor was a
revelation and had everyone, myself included, in fits. Spall and I have
been the best of friends ever since.
Question 19: The two-part Special based in Thailand brought with it a poignant, emotional and sincere farewell to
Brian ‘Bomber’ Busbridge (Pat Roach) when Dennis (Tim Healy) read a letter announcing the Gentle Giant would
not be joining them for their final adventure, deciding instead to hang up his tools and settle in Arizona.
“If I pick up a hammer and a saw again, it’ll be to build a shed at the
back of the house. Every Englishman should have a shed, even if it’s
in the middle of Arizona. I want you to read this letter to the lads
when you’re all in the bar then I want you to drink to the past and to
the future.” Brian Bomber Busbridge
The comradery between cast has been well documented and shines
through each and every scene. Following the passing of your good
friend at time of filming ‘The Special’ in 2004, would you kindly share
one of your fondest memories working with Pat on or off set?
JN - I have so many wonderful memories of time spent with Pat, both on
and off the set. He was just as lovely as he seemed, maybe even more so.
He was softly spoken, I can’t remember him ever raising his voice, but
when he laughed, he roared like a lion. And he absolutely loved being a
part of AWP.
Shooting the first series at Elstree Studios in 1982 I’d often watch Pat's
mini traveller, a little white thing with bits of wood on the side panels,
pull up to the kerb, then somehow, he’d get himself out, eventually
standing like a superhero, towering over this tiny car. It was
extraordinary, like watching a conjuring trick.
He always called me Big Jim, which made me smile as he had a good two inches of height on me. It was also typical of Pat
to move the spotlight away from himself and onto someone else. He had humility and wisdom in equal measure, gained
from an incredible life. I was fortunate to know Pat as a colleague and friend for 20-odd years and our friendship had a
profound effect on me. I think of him often, always with great fondness.
Question 20: Fans of the show are incredibly clued up when it comes to all things Auf Wiedersehen, Pet. Can you
give us one little known inside fact, trivia or story fans couldn’t possibly know about your time on or off set?
JN - Here’s three:
Directly after my very first meeting with the Central Television execs,
casting director Barry Ford, a gentle soul, took out a Sharpie,
obliterated my name from his casting list and said, ‘Well we never
want to see him again!’ Roger Bamford replied. ‘Hang on - I think I
may have found our leading man!’ Roger faced a lot of opposition
but (thankfully for me) he held firm and I was in.
In 2002 we obtained permission from the Cuban government to
shoot Series 4 in its entirety in Cuba. This was unprecedented,
would be a first and we were all very excited until George W Bush
declared Cuba to be on the USA’s Axis of Evil list. As the UK was
allied to the USA the Cuban government, at very short notice,
pulled our permissions. We had to quickly decide whether to
continue or cancel the whole thing. The Dominican Republic was a possible alternative but
nowhere else on Earth looks like Havana. So a film crew was hastily despatched to Havana, their official purpose being to
film exterior locations for a proposed holiday programme. Don’t tell Fidel.
Ian told me of an idea someone - I think it was Liam Neeson – had mentioned to him where the lads would be in the
middle-east, a mile below ground, building an underground palace for Saddam Hussein. After a week in the bowels of the
desert they surface to find Saddam’s been overthrown and there’s a war on. I believe that idea was just a bit too real for
the execs at the BBC. Not to mention the cost of recreating a war.
Question 21: Series 2, episode 8 ‘Marjorie Doesn’t Live Here Anymore’
was largely filmed on location in the north-east of England. The
closing scenes see Oz approve of his son, Rod (Barry Holinshead),
migrating to Italy whilst reminiscing on the banks of the Tyne prior to
bidding him a heartfelt farewell.
Such is the power and delivery of the script, your line “Never forget
your roots son, you’ll always be a Geordie no matter where you go”
continues to strike a chord with AWP fans making an everyday bus
stop under the shadow of the Tyne Bridge arguably the most
photographed in the north east!
You’re proud of your Geordie roots both on and off screen.
Through your performance, how does it feel to have placed
Newcastle, its people and unique dialect firmly on the map?
JN - That episode was tricky; there was Oz being the concerned father,
when from the off we’d watched him wash his hands of his wife and son. I
reasoned it was just another example of Oz’s contrariness; you never knew
which Oz you’d be dealing with from one moment to the next. I’ve known
people like that. And that parting line was also something of a veiled
threat; ‘Divven’t start acting all Italian, mind!’
As for the series’ impact, it’s lovely that recognition is due to something
so beloved and fondly regarded but really, we were just one part of a
long line of film, television and sports stars who flew the flag for
Geordieland and
mangled those vowels
along the way; Stan
Laurel, The Animals,
The Likely Lads, Get Carter, When
The Boat Comes In, Paul Gascoigne, and following on from us,
Ross Noble, Sarah Millican, and Ant and Dec, television’s current
favourite Geordies.
For trivia buffs, Henry Travers, who as Clarence the angel saves the life
of James Stewart in Frank Capra’s ‘It’s A Wonderful Life’, was born in
Prudhoe, Northumberland. Prudhoe is about ten miles west of
Newcastle but I say we make Henry an honorary Geordie.
Question 22: You co-formed the Sunday for Sammy Trust with Tim
Healy in memory of the late great Sammy Johnson who played
tearaway Martin Cooper in series 2. Since the charity’s formation
in 2000, it has raised in excess of £560K providing much needed
funding for creative, talented and enthusiastic young people from
the North East who aspire to a career in theatre, TV, film and
music.
During these incredibly difficult and challenging times, what
advice would you give those wishing to follow in your
footsteps in performing arts?
JN - I’m not the best person to ask as I had no real wish to be an actor
yet I ended up having a comparatively successful career.
That said, I would advise anyone thinking of becoming an actor to do
it for the love of it. Don’t expect to make any money. If it’s a good
living you’re after, then train to be a plumber or a software engineer.
It’s almost impossible to make a decent living solely from acting,
especially right now. For every part that comes along there are
literally thousands of hopefuls chasing it. On top of talent and a
large dollop of good fortune, an aspiring actor needs a heart like a
lion, skin as thick as an armadillo’s and access to deep pockets.
Question 23: We recently touched base with Bill Paterson who
welcomed the opportunity to revive his character as the superbly
executed villain Ally Fraser to address some much overdue
unfinished business with our Magnificent 7.
In excess of 16 years have passed since we last saw Oz with pals
Dennis and Neville on a new adventure; destination Germany.
Would you ever consider reviving your character one last time if
the script and time were perfect and if not, why?
JN - Never say never. In February 2020 I teamed up with Tim, Kevin
and Chris to do some AWP scenes for Sunday for Sammy’s 20th
Anniversary gigs. We had such a laugh I wrote the bones of a 30-
minute pilot episode, kind of ‘Last of the Summer Wine’ meets ‘The
Kominski Method’.
Goodness knows if anything will come of it; times have changed in
terms of the content broadcasters are looking for, and we’re all
seniors; making tv shows is like waging a military campaign, it takes
so much out of you. As you get older, you’re less inclined to want to
roll that boulder up the hill.
Question 24: Such is the timeless quality of writing, acting and production, Auf Wiedersehen, Pet stands up
to repeat viewing with an ever-growing dedicated fanbase.
Do you have a short personal message to fans who have followed the adventures of Dennis, Oz, Neville,
Bomber, Wayne, Barry and Moxey and taken our Magnificent 7 into their hearts for almost 4 decades?
JN - It’s an honour to have been a part of something which to this day is held in such high regard by so many and
has stood the test of time.
On behalf of fans across the world, the team at the Official Auf Wiedersehen, Pet fansite would like to take
this opportunity to thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to answer our questions and for
bringing the legendary Leonard Jeffrey ‘Oz’ Osborne to life on our screens.
JN - It’s been a pleasure. And well done to everyone for keeping the AWP flame burning.
The Official Auf Wiedersehen Pet fansite would sincerely like to thank Jimmy for taking time out of his busy schedule
to speak with us and share his memories.
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